PCSF: Wednesday,Day Two - Solution Day
UPDATE: Next day, Dale Peterson
I missed the Waterfall Solutions Unidirectional Connectivity presentation but caught up with them at the evening exhibit. They have a product that through hardware, I heard the term diode and optical communications, only allows one way communication. Hence they use the term unidirectional. It is an interesting concept that could be useful if you are pushing data from a more secure zone to a less secure zone, such as control center to DMZ. It is purely one way, so there are no acks, resend, recovery, etc. Where is this a good option?
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UPDATE: 4PM, Dale Peterson
I also attended the RISI / incident database talk. I’m convinced it can work, because it has worked. The question is whether there is enough interest to do this pro bono or receive funding. Interestingly, I was thinking why would a business want to go through the effort to collect and maintain this database. Maybe one with a portal strategy??? Maybe we should talk to Mark Fabro and Eric Byres.
Bryan Singer of Wurldtech had the long slot after lunch to talk about Achilles inside. [Full disclosure: Wurldtech is a past client and current advertiser]. Actually have a few comments about this. After the 1:30 presentation I still can’t tell you what Achilles Inside is. I asked a few others, and they couldn’t either. Perhaps it was to avoid commercialism, and it could be the greatest thing ever, but the message needs some work.
There were some interesting parts of the presentation such as “Safety does not deal with intentional actions” and the impact of bridging the traffic for monitoring. Wurldtech had to be specify their own hardware to minimize the impact of monitoring during testing.
A bit of discussion on vulnerability disclosure as well. Wurldtech will not release vulnerability information and is very sympathetic to the problems of patching.
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UPDATE : Morning Recap, Jason Holcomb
Several good presentations and side conversations so far today.
I attended the first one “Are You Compliant or Liable? Industrial Security and Compliance Using the Holistic Lifecycle Model” with a bit of a personal agenda. I assumed those attending might also be interested in our Bandolier project so I wanted to listen any issues that may be relevant.
(Side Note: This was presented by Clint Bodungen of CIDG, Chris Paul of Joyce and Paul, and Jeff Whitney of Berkana Resources Corporation). I do appreciate the holistic approach to compliance (CIDG’s model). In fact, I have worked on something very similar for another organization only we called it the “security framework”.
Not sure if I’m convinced on all the legal arguments made by attorney Chris Paul but IANAL, as they say. He talked a lot about potential criminal or civil liabilities based on security negligence. I’m just not sure if avoiding a lawsuit is the right motivation for control system security but I suppose it can help get the attention of some.
Next up for me was Eric Byres’ and Mark Fabro’s presentation about the Repository for Industrial Security Incidents (RISI). This is a spinoff of the work Eric did at BCIT with ISID (Industrial Security Incident Database). Here’s the overview:
- You will need to submit an incident to the database in order to have full access (this is the same policy used with the ISID)
- The difference with this system is there will be online access
- There will be a paid quarterly newsletter that will provide summary information from the database — statistics, sector-specific data, etc…
- There will be somewhere between 75 and 150 incidents in the database from the beginning
They are actively gathering input on if and how to carry out this project so I’m sure they would love to hear from you if you have an opinion. There will be some challenges for them but I am definitely curious to see what this looks like in final form.
I rounded out the morning with “Control Systems Threat Awareness” by Robert Huber and Sean McBride of INL. These guys have used various data collection points to help understand the current threat and trends over time. It was a good follow-up to yesterday’s presentation by Stephen Gill of Team Cymru. It was a well-organized compilation of threat data. They’ve taken many of the things you’ve heard, such as control system presentations at hacker conferences, and plotted them in a measurable way that illustrates an increasing “adversary interest”.
One of the really interesting slides did a comparison of how control system application vendors make their security contact information available versus that of the big traditional IT software companies. It measured the percentage of the two groups that had a /security web page and a dedicated e-mail address for security issues, a standard of sorts for interfacing with the security research community. As you might imagine, the results showed tat only a very small minority of the control system application vendors followed the practice.
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Thinking back on day one, the highlights for me were Phyliss Schneck’s keynote and Mark Fabro’s closed to press presentation. Plenary sessions are tough because it is hard to calibrate the presentation to a large audience with very different experience and interest levels.
Day two is called solution day. There are four tracks going on and then an exhibit tonight. I find these sessions more interesting than the plenary event. There are more details and more focused.
When Good Traffic Goes Bad: When is Application Traffic Too Much?
Daniel Peck from Digital Bond joined Tom Maufer of Mu Dynamics and Kevin McGrath of ABB in this presentation. Interesting denial of service examples from Brown’s Ferry Unit 3 Scram [too much traffic to a PLC], Amazon S3 [too many logins], and Ralph Langner’s OPC DoS paper from S4. Ralph showed how very long group names and too many client connections could exhaust all resources and cause a DoS. The OPC applications did not have any limits.
Vendors can improve the situation through rate limiting, syn cookies and source filtering, as well as beefing up their logging. Asset owners should consider quality of service measures, and maybe there is a case for looking at load balancing rather than purely redundancy?
Lots of good talk on the importance and methods for vendor testing, followed now by Mu doing a demo of some testing options with their product.
Guess what - - the demo didn’t work - - may have been for the best as the Q&A was more interesting.
Author: Dale Peterson
Posted: August 28th, 2008 under PCSF.
Comments: 1
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Comment from Clint Bodungen
Time: August 28, 2008, 1:54 am
Jason,
First off, it was great meeting you today face to face! I see your point and agree with you on the legal aspect of the presentation. It’s difficult to cover the entire Holistic Model in a one hour presentation and convey each of its benefits and attributes. As a result, each time we do a version of this presentation, we end up focusing a little more on one aspect over the others. In this case it happened to be the legal aspect. I feel it is worth noting that each of the legal issues and examples that Chris brings up is from actual lessons learned from actual court cases. So, there is supported validity in his concerns. Anyway, I would just like to close by reiterating that avoiding lawsuits is not our intended motivating factor behind the Holistic Model. It is one factor among many others including:
-Developing a sound mitigation/remediation strategy
-Improving security from a complete holistic view (cyber, physical, operational)
-Mitigating broad auditor interpretation
-Helping to improve interdepartmental cohesion
-etc.
Thank you for attending today and, as always, for your insight and comments.
Cheers!
Clint
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